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		<title>Comment on A Question of Votes? by Some Things I Meant To Say Re: Occupy &#38; The Riots &#171; Media Darlings</title>
		<link>http://mccaine.org/2011/12/06/a-question-of-votes/#comment-610</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2012 01:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] others &#8211; from Catholic nuns to community organising imams &#8211; appear to be part of the 2.5 million people who have simply stopped voting since 1997, the year Blair&#8217;s New Labour turned general elections into a choice between three flavours of [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] others &#8211; from Catholic nuns to community organising imams &#8211; appear to be part of the 2.5 million people who have simply stopped voting since 1997, the year Blair&#8217;s New Labour turned general elections into a choice between three flavours of [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Question of Votes? by Some Things I Meant To Say About Occupy &#38; The Summer Riots &#171; Media Darlings</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Some Things I Meant To Say About Occupy &#38; The Summer Riots &#171; Media Darlings]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2012 01:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] others &#8211; from Catholic nuns to community organising imams &#8211; appear to be part of the 2.5 million people who have simply stopped voting since 1997, the year Blair&#8217;s New Labour turned general elections into a choice between three flavours of [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] others &#8211; from Catholic nuns to community organising imams &#8211; appear to be part of the 2.5 million people who have simply stopped voting since 1997, the year Blair&#8217;s New Labour turned general elections into a choice between three flavours of [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Question of Votes? by Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://mccaine.org/2011/12/06/a-question-of-votes/#comment-608</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Dec 2011 15:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think your analysis misses out on a number of fundamental issues.

That firstly, the idea of a minority government being an effect promoter of policy in the UK is not viable.  The experiment of the modern coalition can be seen two years on as heading into failure.  The Liberal Democrats have damaged their brand severely, and received little in return save minister cars.  It could easily be argued that they should have gone in with Labour if they could have received their cherished AV system outright, avoiding a referendum.  After all, the most damaging and regressive part of policy they pushed through, they fixed term parliaments act, which could condemn the Commons to the same kind of political paralysis commonly seen in the US Senate, received no such referendum.

But with respect to getting Labour back in power, the reality is that you ignore the vast influence of psychology on electoral behaviour. Likeability tends to be a much more important factor in first past the post American/UK systems than proportional representation systems in Europe.  In the US, personal voting is marginal and there are no party lists. Of course votes are lost as candidates become less fresh and lose their luster, and one can see that problems with Labour stewardship dragged down turnout as the years went on -- but the main reason for initial large increases in turnout whether or Obama or support for Bush -- was perception.

You are wrong in saying that the democratic base was the reason for Kerry&#039;s lack of a victory in 2004.  It is the independent vote that is the most important in US elections, and the fact that party registration is free and almost universal, and therefore voters are not as unduly loyal as they would be in the UK.  The &#039;Reagan Democrats&#039; or the &#039;Obama Republicans&#039; are indeed the groups that tip elections.

So what was the key to Blair&#039;s victory in ending two decades of Tory leadership? He was a media figure.  He was likeable.  The fact that the union backing in the Labour party seems completely oblivious to this threatens to plunge the party back into the irrelevance of the Foot era.  Like it or not, in the X-factorised world of politics, it is appearance that often counts equally with substance.  Contrast Blair with Milliband -- a lisping, haggard figure who sold his own brother out.  It is his own dislikeability and failure to promote new ideas that enables Cameron to appear comparatively endearing.

I hope Labour doesn&#039;t have to lose another election realise that no one wants a Daffy Duck prime minister.

Lastly, the rightward trend of the Labour is a reflection of the new progressivism of the 21st century.  An outlook that recognises the globalised world as being fundamentally more connected, but less communal than than the industrial revolution has seen.  There is less and less need to live in large cities, to centralise businesses, and in some cases production.  The bottom line is that the conservatives were able to tap into a sea change in sentimentality among voters that stressed individual responsibility and reward, and when Labour was able to seize that narrative it gave it a chance to reform as well as to bring about progressive social policy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think your analysis misses out on a number of fundamental issues.</p>
<p>That firstly, the idea of a minority government being an effect promoter of policy in the UK is not viable.  The experiment of the modern coalition can be seen two years on as heading into failure.  The Liberal Democrats have damaged their brand severely, and received little in return save minister cars.  It could easily be argued that they should have gone in with Labour if they could have received their cherished AV system outright, avoiding a referendum.  After all, the most damaging and regressive part of policy they pushed through, they fixed term parliaments act, which could condemn the Commons to the same kind of political paralysis commonly seen in the US Senate, received no such referendum.</p>
<p>But with respect to getting Labour back in power, the reality is that you ignore the vast influence of psychology on electoral behaviour. Likeability tends to be a much more important factor in first past the post American/UK systems than proportional representation systems in Europe.  In the US, personal voting is marginal and there are no party lists. Of course votes are lost as candidates become less fresh and lose their luster, and one can see that problems with Labour stewardship dragged down turnout as the years went on &#8212; but the main reason for initial large increases in turnout whether or Obama or support for Bush &#8212; was perception.</p>
<p>You are wrong in saying that the democratic base was the reason for Kerry&#8217;s lack of a victory in 2004.  It is the independent vote that is the most important in US elections, and the fact that party registration is free and almost universal, and therefore voters are not as unduly loyal as they would be in the UK.  The &#8216;Reagan Democrats&#8217; or the &#8216;Obama Republicans&#8217; are indeed the groups that tip elections.</p>
<p>So what was the key to Blair&#8217;s victory in ending two decades of Tory leadership? He was a media figure.  He was likeable.  The fact that the union backing in the Labour party seems completely oblivious to this threatens to plunge the party back into the irrelevance of the Foot era.  Like it or not, in the X-factorised world of politics, it is appearance that often counts equally with substance.  Contrast Blair with Milliband &#8212; a lisping, haggard figure who sold his own brother out.  It is his own dislikeability and failure to promote new ideas that enables Cameron to appear comparatively endearing.</p>
<p>I hope Labour doesn&#8217;t have to lose another election realise that no one wants a Daffy Duck prime minister.</p>
<p>Lastly, the rightward trend of the Labour is a reflection of the new progressivism of the 21st century.  An outlook that recognises the globalised world as being fundamentally more connected, but less communal than than the industrial revolution has seen.  There is less and less need to live in large cities, to centralise businesses, and in some cases production.  The bottom line is that the conservatives were able to tap into a sea change in sentimentality among voters that stressed individual responsibility and reward, and when Labour was able to seize that narrative it gave it a chance to reform as well as to bring about progressive social policy.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Question of Votes? by BobbyFlint (@BBFlint)</title>
		<link>http://mccaine.org/2011/12/06/a-question-of-votes/#comment-604</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2011 19:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A fantastic analysis of the situation. You&#039;d think Labour would realise this and act accordingly, but apparently not. (And of course I can see that you would be very sceptical of their achieving anything even if they did...)

Thanks for posting this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A fantastic analysis of the situation. You&#8217;d think Labour would realise this and act accordingly, but apparently not. (And of course I can see that you would be very sceptical of their achieving anything even if they did&#8230;)</p>
<p>Thanks for posting this.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Question of Votes? by herolfo</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 19:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[would you say we need a &quot;third way&quot; to Marxist-Leninism and Social Democracy???]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>would you say we need a &#8220;third way&#8221; to Marxist-Leninism and Social Democracy???</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Question of Votes? by Zalb</title>
		<link>http://mccaine.org/2011/12/06/a-question-of-votes/#comment-593</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zalb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2011 22:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The swedish text Reformismens Omöjligheter ~ The Impossibilities of Reformism speaks about the same tendencies in the swedish social democracy. The conclusion is similar to your own, but the interesting part lies in that it argues that parliamentary democracy itself shapes the politics of the parties that participate in it. The representation abstracts away classes, parties are encouraged to reach out to groups outside of their own movement such as &quot;swing voters&quot;, the energy of the movement is funneled into maximising election results, the MPs become paid politicians and so on. Further, should the party succeed then it is placed into a position where it has to become the caretaker of the economy and humor the interests of the bourgeoisie, which limits its possibilities to carry out reforms.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The swedish text Reformismens Omöjligheter ~ The Impossibilities of Reformism speaks about the same tendencies in the swedish social democracy. The conclusion is similar to your own, but the interesting part lies in that it argues that parliamentary democracy itself shapes the politics of the parties that participate in it. The representation abstracts away classes, parties are encouraged to reach out to groups outside of their own movement such as &#8220;swing voters&#8221;, the energy of the movement is funneled into maximising election results, the MPs become paid politicians and so on. Further, should the party succeed then it is placed into a position where it has to become the caretaker of the economy and humor the interests of the bourgeoisie, which limits its possibilities to carry out reforms.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Question of Votes? by Delroy Booth (@DelroyBooth)</title>
		<link>http://mccaine.org/2011/12/06/a-question-of-votes/#comment-589</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Delroy Booth (@DelroyBooth)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 17:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Will leave a more detailed reply to this later on tonight. Very good article. Echo&#039;s much of the thinkng of Ralph Miliband and Socialist Register. 

We don&#039;t need Marxist-Leninism, which is a proven failure, or Social Democracy, which is a proven liberal sell-out, we need Democratic Socialism, that&#039;s all there is to it. But I&#039;ll set out why in more detail later on :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will leave a more detailed reply to this later on tonight. Very good article. Echo&#8217;s much of the thinkng of Ralph Miliband and Socialist Register. </p>
<p>We don&#8217;t need Marxist-Leninism, which is a proven failure, or Social Democracy, which is a proven liberal sell-out, we need Democratic Socialism, that&#8217;s all there is to it. But I&#8217;ll set out why in more detail later on :)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Some Comments on Egyptian and Turkish Politics by JM ISO</title>
		<link>http://mccaine.org/2011/11/23/some-comments-on-egyptian-and-turkish-politics/#comment-581</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JM ISO]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2011 15:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, okay.  Maybe I was a bit overoptimistic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, okay.  Maybe I was a bit overoptimistic.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Some Comments on Egyptian and Turkish Politics by JM ISO</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JM ISO]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Nov 2011 22:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not sure I agree with the assessment that the liberals will support the Tahrir protesters.  There are certain highly visible liberal commentators who will - Alaa&#039; al Aswany comes to mind - but there are a great many others - Amr Hamzawy would be one - who are very vocal about their disapproval of the continued use of popular protest.  The general sentiment I seem to be hearing from many middle class liberals here is that they feel the clashes were provoked by thugs in the pay of the former regime masquerading as protesters, and they would like to see elections go forward and not be hindered by these protests.
    Certainly the liberals have abiding concerns about the power of the MB.  But since the MB has diverged significantly from the Salafist elements in favor of a more neoliberal slant, they have fractured their electoral base.  In my opinion, although the MB will claim a significant share of parliamentary elections, they will still need to enter into coalition to accomplish anything, thereby diluting any Islamist influence they might have on the government overall.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure I agree with the assessment that the liberals will support the Tahrir protesters.  There are certain highly visible liberal commentators who will &#8211; Alaa&#8217; al Aswany comes to mind &#8211; but there are a great many others &#8211; Amr Hamzawy would be one &#8211; who are very vocal about their disapproval of the continued use of popular protest.  The general sentiment I seem to be hearing from many middle class liberals here is that they feel the clashes were provoked by thugs in the pay of the former regime masquerading as protesters, and they would like to see elections go forward and not be hindered by these protests.<br />
    Certainly the liberals have abiding concerns about the power of the MB.  But since the MB has diverged significantly from the Salafist elements in favor of a more neoliberal slant, they have fractured their electoral base.  In my opinion, although the MB will claim a significant share of parliamentary elections, they will still need to enter into coalition to accomplish anything, thereby diluting any Islamist influence they might have on the government overall.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Conspiracy Problem by Jonni Limonov</title>
		<link>http://mccaine.org/2011/11/15/the-conspiracy-problem/#comment-562</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonni Limonov]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i like this article, though feel it could have been elaborated on a little more, even if you readily admit you don&#039;t have a convenient answer to the problem.

however, i think you struck on a very good point that conspiracy nutters often have great political instincts, only they fail to form a meaningful critique based on their gut feelings.  i think this applies equally to the conspiracy folks on the right - that is, the rightist americans knew they had a very instinctual distaste for obama (even beyond his skin color here) and rather than form some kind of meaningful social criticism or attempt to elucidate exactly why they had a problem with his demeanor, politics, biography, style, movement, and so on, they latched onto a narrative that was simple and satisfying, and that also went a long way in solving some intractable problem they had:  how could obama be elected president?  oh, well he was never qualified to run in the first place; he shouldn&#039;t be the president; he&#039;s not the president.  on the left i think that the conspiracies are often linked to feelings of frustration, helplessness, &amp; powerlessness and seek to explain or rationalize that position.  but i may have a one track mind about this right now]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i like this article, though feel it could have been elaborated on a little more, even if you readily admit you don&#8217;t have a convenient answer to the problem.</p>
<p>however, i think you struck on a very good point that conspiracy nutters often have great political instincts, only they fail to form a meaningful critique based on their gut feelings.  i think this applies equally to the conspiracy folks on the right &#8211; that is, the rightist americans knew they had a very instinctual distaste for obama (even beyond his skin color here) and rather than form some kind of meaningful social criticism or attempt to elucidate exactly why they had a problem with his demeanor, politics, biography, style, movement, and so on, they latched onto a narrative that was simple and satisfying, and that also went a long way in solving some intractable problem they had:  how could obama be elected president?  oh, well he was never qualified to run in the first place; he shouldn&#8217;t be the president; he&#8217;s not the president.  on the left i think that the conspiracies are often linked to feelings of frustration, helplessness, &amp; powerlessness and seek to explain or rationalize that position.  but i may have a one track mind about this right now</p>
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